Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. Someone posted on here that if you like a just washed look reconsider using matte. We have only had our cabinets for about a month so I cant speak to long term durability yet but they turned out gorgeous. Is there another more affordable option I can try? Okay we have decided to go with Bona Traffic HD in extra matte! It is the way it is normally done. I love your wall and cabinet paint too. Good luck on your project!! Seems I also read that it may not even cover that much some places. I did a larger sample of Unico smoke, covered with their Titan (goes on with a roller) and tested it with salty water, red wine and vinegar. I used no filter on the photos, on an overcast morning from different angles. And DuraSeal is not necessarily considered "professional grade". I disagree that it was not an attack on me as G & Ss follow up comment said, oh yeah, hidden message. He will then send the sample to a Sherwin Williams Product Finishes Store and they will match the sample. I personally see dolomite and dense sandstones misrepresented as Quartzite more then any other material. If they are not able to confirm to you what material it is, then look elsewhere for your countertop fabrication. @Abigail Barber Burgum you can just go to their website to find the nearest dealer to you. if so, the bank may be able to give you your money back if you dispute the charge for red oak and the install. First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. Our new floors just got done and we got to sneak a peek. I don't want yellow - so thinking Natural or Nordic - but I'm worried about the white wash being too much. The use of water based is VASTLY different from oil based. It still should not come off. @mtpo - Your floors look BEAUTIFUL, thank you for sharing the pics, I can't wait to see the final product. The 3 coats of finish (the expensive HD stuff) is the Gold Standardbut 2 coats + sealant is still very good. I cannot find any locally. I am posting some final outcome pictures in different rooms and lighting. And rubio makes a treatment for acid stains. "1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. Yes. I could not get dog drool, LOLwe also scratched it and our current floors (factory oil urethane) with tips of a scissor to compare. Also what do you mean by toned oak? Thank you SJ McCarthy for your expertise and explanation of time between coats, drying time and curing time. My cabinets are custom sizes and I was going to go with Barker cabinets (had my order all ready to send), but someone here on houzz recommended I check out this local guy first, and I am so glad I did! Even Van Gogh couldn't do that! @Hughey do you know what process for bleaching? When I put the natural stain on my floor it looks gray. Bona Natural Seal on the top, Bona Nordic Seal on the bottom. We will have 3500 sq of wood and certainly dont want problems. No one does work for free. Its not a guarantee that the floors wont get damaged, but perhaps the extra coat will buy me a little more time to clean up a wet spot. Get ready for a LONG story! Of course the MORE coats you put on today.the FEWER coats you have to ADD in 15 years time (called a buff and coat and costs $3/sf on average). After seeing this post and refinishing parents floor, I want your oak in my house you did fantastic job. They just don't get any DARKER over time. It is my understanding that these Bona products are tricky to apply. And dont go forward unless they are willing to give you samples with ALL the finished coats. Heres a photo of our 7 Norwegian white oak before sanding or any sealer. It is a way for everyone to see how easy it is to misunderstand posts. Thank you! professional finishes are sold in gallons only. Don't test just with sealer. Would love to see pics of the InteseSeal, as we are considering the same. Maybe instead of wanting it natural, I really wanted it lighter rather than a medium to darker stain. We got select I think its 3/4 thick and 7 wide. Full text of "Report of the Commissioner of Education" . @Jonathan Margareten Hi. Bona The installer did a great job with the install, he fell down with the stain and finish. @tkgriff Thanks for sharing the photos. Once you and your professional shake hands and write a contract that's when they come in and start the job. I have found some great inspirational pictures. @kasmit00 Did you ever find the recipe for your post from last year with the beautiful soft "brown" floors? It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. Originally, I had declared never to Quartz after reading peoples complaints about chipping and cracks. How to protect the wood enough for kitchen cabinet use but 1. Part of me wishes we went satin finish bc I realized I do like a little sheen on a floor (just washed look). (Thank you @Joseph Corlett for giving me the confidence to use Corian and to Heartwood Solid Surfaces for doing the work.) :), @bowmeister67 and @widdy23 I used exactly what bowmeister said , 1 coat of Bona Nordic seal and 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. My plan was boba natural seal plus 3 coats HD extra matte, but I didnt know about a next final step, please provide detail/product for final sealant step. https://sprucingupmamahood.com/provenza-vinyl-flooring-review/. So they use 3 gal of product and it appears the TrafficHD is $100/gal more +/- than the cheaper stuff. En cliquant sur Accepter , j'accepte l'utilisation des cookies telle qu'elle est dcrite plus en dtail dans la Politique d'Utilisation des Cookies de Houzz. If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. Good luck! Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. However, as you can see from the photo, after the first coat, yellow dominated the room. Thank you to all of the experts for weighing in. You should look it up. It is 3/4 x 5 solid white oak hardwood. Never to be heard from again. Yes, Trump2 I agree. Unfortunately I don't remember how many layers of each. All the questions and answers have been helpful to me when I have come looking, so I wanted to post photos from today that will possibly help others choose. I read on the Bona website (and others) that TrafficHD coverage was 350-400sf/gal. WebApplication of the sealer will alter the chemical structure of the porous sandstone or natural stone providing a excellent water repellent and stain resistant surface. Compare that to the 2 MINUTES you have with Bona! And all the answers. The supplier may help you out. Was a bit of a risky choice, went with a pretty unusual/bold extra wide 5" wide pattern and I think it turned out well. It was applied Saturday morning. I guess it's my monitor because I don't see the pink undertone in the Houzz photo you last posted. How much should I expect the Traffic HD to change the color? We are going with Ciranova "smoke" Unico oil--a one coat product--- which is very similar to Rubio's Smoke 5%, but it can be covered with Ciranova's Fortico (supposedly equal to Bona Traffic). They do their own fuming there I found it interesting to learn about that too. @Elaine Gauthier Art Did you find any solution or larger cabinet maker that has the white oak? WebHealthsmart: 640-8174-1900HS, Healthsmart - 640-8174-1900HS - HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24", White, HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24" L, White, Epoxy-coated Steel That's like painting a master piece with 10 minutes on the clock. I think of a coat of sealant as 1/2 a coat of finish. @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. Then ask the fabricator about the stone you are considering if it's purchased from a separate slab yard. He is also meeting with Sherwin Williams this weekend at a trade show in Vegas and will see if there are any better options to achieve the Studio McGee look on rift white oak we are all looking for. If you are paying for professional grade products, just make sure you are GETTING professional grade products. Thats a problem Im left with and he wrote that message to me, not the hardwood installer. @widdy23 Seems like everything is taking longer than expected. Also, will the Bona Nordic take the white oak lighter at all or darker? Is this permissible to use on cabinets. It has been a nightmare trying to find this look in my area. Some comments that NaturalSeal has a slight white cloudiness? I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. I personally feel a reputable stone supplier and fabricator will educate you in mineral composition, stone formation, and inform you how and where the stones are quarried. Anyway, good luck. The 'oil based' finishes that base costs of a finish allow 45 MINUTES of wet edge. Your house lay out seems very much like ours! But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? He installed the floors beautifully, but installed red oak even though I showed him a sample of pre-finished white stained white oak. @skru33 Thanks! And like all things "time is money". White streaks in floor. We installed almost 3000 sq ft throughout our home and it is the most important feature of our renovation. Show me your white oak floors w duraseal country white or Bona white! Pretty sure they bleached their cabinets but who knows at this point. You can use Poloplaz Pearl sealer with Endure or Pallmann's Pall-x white seal and Pall-x Pure. WebBona DriFast Stain is a premium quick-drying stain for interior hardwood floors. They apply the product too thin and it sets up quicker than recommended. They either look to white/milkey or they are orangish yellow. @Ashley Your floors look beautiful. So it looks like I must know what product I am likely to use before I can even find a pro.So I am experimenting on my own, trying to narrow down the options. If you do NOT want ORANGEthen stay away from "oil" based finishes or "oil modified". Color we like the Bona Nordic best and the Bona Natural second, but they both have a muddy haze when you see them in real life. Also I highly suggest getting big samples done with all the coatings. Can you share the color? Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. A sand/refinish of an existing floor = $4-$5/sf. Its really helpful to see the product on YOUR wood. ?-- and liked playing around with it. Cant decide! We just installed 5 white oak throughout our home. Make warm gray your new go-to neutral, Find the right local pro for your project, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, https://sprucingupmamahood.com/provenza-vinyl-flooring-review/, 5 Essential Moves for Classic Scandi Style, Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists, Natures Color Wisdom: Lessons on White From the Great Outdoors, What to Know About Engineered Wood Floors, Maison & Objet: Art Deco and a Return to Elegance, Color of the Week: Decorating With Warm Gray. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. Choosing finish on white oak floor. My suggestion is to figure out what type of 'cleaning' person you are. But that's all it does. And you want to have 3 coats total. It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. Is the haze from the white that is in the sealer or the matte finish, or both? Do you have high ceilings ? But they did just complete a project with Bona NordicSeal. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. They are light, modern, and show the natural color and variation of the wood. I love your base molding, where do you buy that from? Your floor looks amazing. I read that Natural has a bit of white in it too to avoid the yellow, but unsure if that is fact. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. . Granite and Quartzite have completely different make-ups. We even "fumed" a few boards in a fuming tent, and they just didn't look as good as the waxes/oils. Loba in any of its water based formats (low gloss keeps it from looking "finished") options will do exactly what you want. ISO something similar to Hallmark Alta Vista "Malibu" in urethane, Questions about chemicals in vinyl install - foul odor, health probs. And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. Gravity works. I wasnt wild about any of the patterns. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. are you happy with it 2+ years later (and is it holding up well with food/oil stains etc) please share any details, like if you had 2 or 3 coats. In your photos, it actually looks like your parquet is made solid squares, nicer to see larger woodgrain patterns instead of the 4 or 5 slat in a checkerboard pattern(each "tile" would have 12 or 14 etc total slats in one 1 sf "tile". How did you retained the natural color of the wood? These are the LVP samples and my unfinished white oak stair parts. Can you also please send a picture of the floors with the seal and traffic HD? I can reject non-essential cookies by clicking Manage Preferences. We recently installed new white oak hardwoods and did not like the color they turned out and will be refinishing them again - would love to get it right second time around (felt the floors looked a lot different when complete than our small sample in round one). Indem Sie auf Annehmen klicken, stimmen Sie dem zu. (Ive read LOTS of old posts!). Bona NordicSeal to Create a Whitewashed Hardwood Floor I know one of the Milesi products in the natural effects side does contain a UV filter. Heres a photo of our family room. It still should not come off. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. The wood Is white oak from Norway (from Cochrans in Virginia). 2 coats at the right coverage is more than enough for low traffic areas. I read some really old posts here that say stay away from the Nordic. The people there were very patient with us and very helpful. This only matters for porosity not hardness. Dont know if you can see much in this photo the brown paper is torn away under the island and an area of the floor shows there. We sell stone, fabricate and install countertops so we're there every step of the way which keeps me up to date on pretty much every stone that is used today. Sigh. Why did you decide to go with Corian? MaryJane, My white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona. Getting gloomy from cool gray? AhemRight??? I would have loved to find a simpler, cheaper, regular old stain, but they just don't give me the same look I'm trying to achieve. so you did one coat of natural and two coats of HD? Milesi or Renner, etc etc. There's nothing wrong with making a minor mistake, nor with owning up to it. Rift white oak lowers and white uppers. white oak It is a work of art. It will not etch like Marble, but has a marble like appearance. This is a platform for people to help one another. Dark Hardwood Floors vs. Light Hardwood Floors? Will there be less haze if we use a satin finish? BTW after the fabricator installed the countertops (and carefully covered them to protect them), other contractors uncovered them and used them as a work bench and scratched them up - a lot! My husband and I had 5" white oak floors installed and we are like the look of one coat of Bona Nordic Seal and two coats of satin water based polyurethane on our floors. I adore the light color, but every little water spot shows, or a splash of spilled coffee. It sounds like this does a really good job at what we are both after. Then go with water based and be done with it. I thought I was going with Pallman's white, because it was gorgeous on the 15"X8" sample but on the larger sample with a new bundle of wood it pulled way too pink, even on white oak. @Ryan Danielson, I just told my cabinet maker to go ahead and order my cabinet doors in the rift oak so I've only got a couple of weeks to get this figured out. How are things holding up a ~year later? Just about the time I had to FINALLY make a decision (about a year later than when I started due to the architects goof ups and COVID shut downs), the Corian fabricator sent me a couple 4x4 samples of Glacier White. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. Most of the base cabinets are covered with cardboard to protect them. The lowest level of gloss I suggest to 'clean-shiny' person is semi-gloss. However, I failed to visualize the tan natural against the grey bathroom tile. I had no idea that white oak looks different when grown in one geographical area versus another. Don't change chemical companies in the middle of a refinish. They were great to work with. Those are STUNNING! Just a little darker then the natural rift oak. If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). And it does NOT cause amberingbut the Mega does. I had just had floors done by a floor shop, two years of hospice requires me to redo them, seems a layer can be scraped up with a spackle scraper easily and turned dark ( like cherry wood does in sunlight but this was white oak ). Finished with three matte protective coats. These are the guys who put down 3 coats in one day and then p!ss off. can you share any pix? Ill post more photos- the site only lets me post one at a time. White I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. One other question. P.S. Don't disagree with you at all. P.P.S. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. Use Bona Naturaseal for the look you want. Please help on base, crown, window, door molding size decision. True Quartzite is very dense and many are not prone to staining. Argh. Photos would be helpful. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. How to keep red oak floors light and natural? And finally, a 'fit' *might include costs.but it should be much lower on the list than you might think. Its for a new build. Do you think there is any major issue with this? Contact your Bona rep to understand all the options with the Bona System or view our catalog here: https://bit.ly/3eqqhSK. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. It will make you happy. My contractor said that I will probably need to use the renew oil every few year which I am fine with. We only did two and are already seeing wear and tear on the first floor in our main living space. We were advised to wait until the economy rebounds. Which is why I posted asking for people's experiences today, but I never received any replies. Bona The bleaching added to the cost and another opportunity for something to go wrong. @mtpo We are also considering the Bona nordic seal on white oak. He told me that the floor would look the same, which was obviously a lie. I have about 735 sf. It honestly looks just like our white oak (unstained, natural) - I wish I could leave it without sealer etc. WebBona - WM710013496 - 16.5 in. Looking at your photos, I love the look of your kitchen. She lucked out and her floors look pretty good. Flooring guys are the best since they are redoing to make me happy. Every client after that training will pay extra for his/her expertise. They will not withstand the normal kitchen detergent cleanings that need to occurr to remove grease or pancake batter. A red oak floor does not need sealant. It was applied Saturday morning.". white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances? It did not affect the color. White Oak - which Bona sealer I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. I dont want to hide the clerestory windows with coverings and dont like the strings that show with bottom-up shades (maybe OK for the bedrooms). Thank you for your feedback. He did know his stains and how it would finishI will give him that. sherwin williams duraseal ), Make sure your installer has experience using the Bona products and especially the Nordic. I am sorry , Thank you!! @Jessica Lirag what did you end up with? Thanks so much! And this will continue to occur until the finish is "done right". It is engineered 7 - to be finished on site. I dont recall the price of the lumber / the price our builder charged us (he ordered it on his account). are you happy with these floors or wish you would have gone darker? WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. The refinishers used "Bona Dri-Fast Natural Stain", "Bona Classic Sealer"*, and "Bona Mega Satin" (two coats). One coat application to saturation, or (for best results apply 2nd coat 'wet on wet') Resistant to algae, lichen and staining. Some 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. Hd and Supra extra matte does not. Im happy with the color. Look forward to more pictures. What color are your cabinets and what color Corian did you go with? After looking into the flooring situation I found that if a wood floor person says "it won't hold up in Florida" theirs won't! Three teenagers, a dog. Fortunately, the installer is sending them back to the lumberyard to be replaced. I could also put hot pots on the stainless. I lost confidence in my floor guy - I think he wasn't wiping the stain off but letting it dry on resulting in washed paint look. We got our hardwood lumber from a lumber mill in Berryville, VA. The builder had choices for us, this or that type of choice. Out of curiosity what width floorboards did you use (and which manufacturer did you go with)? The other two will give you more color. So in my mind better to research and ask questions than not. Use natural seal. It must be sanded down and done again. For a house your size and a $50k budget. I might use the Baro for my cabinetsor the Pallman's Natural. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Any specific fillers recommended for the knots & gaps ? I'd love to know if you end up liking your final product and would welcome any photos! Has anyone applied the Bona Nordic and HD to white oak stair partsnewel posts/rails ? Hi thanks in advance for your help We are having white oak installed and finished on site. 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(Just read the dog drool threads.) We love our floors! It still a major upgrade from Bona MEGa. White oak stain is also famous. * I didn't know that Classic Sealer added yellow that Natural Sealer did not but I didn't have anything to compare it to. Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). Have a wet rag handy to wipe away mistakes and drips.
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